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. The thread that has always been on our minds
Grievous Seraph - Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:30 am
Post subject: . The
thread that has always been on our minds
So if the two universes collided and had to do
battle with each other (I mean like Klingons, Borg, Feds vs New Republic,
Imperials, Hapes Cluster, Hutts, Jedi, you get the idea...) who would emerge
victorious? This is the type of conversation we all have as little children, so
enjoy!
Ladywriter - Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:30 am
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star wars would conquer all.... they got Deathstar! 
Khellendross - Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:56 am
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star wars would own.. the feds n the rest aint got nothin on dem ^^;
Grievous Seraph - Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:41 am
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What about the Borgs?
They have very
sophisticated technology they have assimilated during the countless years. I
belive they could cause Deathstar some serious damage, if not destroy it
completely.
One small Borg cubicle can make serious troubles to a big ship
like Enterprise with an ease. And not to mention, Enterprise has got photon
torpedos, high velocity projectiles and funky lasers.
What armament does
Deathstar have? One bigass ion cannon and some pathetic turrets - Nothing a Borg
empire couldnīt handle.
... just something to think about. 
Crescent ZERO - Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:56 pm
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| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
One small Borg cubicle can
make serious troubles to a big ship like Enterprise with an ease. And not
to mention, Enterprise has got photon torpedos, high velocity projectiles
and funky lasers.
What armament does Deathstar have? One bigass ion
cannon and some pathetic turrets - Nothing a Borg empire couldnīt handle.
|
*Geek mode*
You mean tens of thousands of turrets, right? And the super cannon would
nuke the borg shipd before they realized what hit them
*End Geek mode*
Grievous Seraph - Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:06 pm
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| Crescent ZERO wrote: |
| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
One small Borg cubicle
can make serious troubles to a big ship like Enterprise with an
ease. And not to mention, Enterprise has got photon torpedos, high
velocity projectiles and funky lasers.
What armament does
Deathstar have? One bigass ion cannon and some pathetic turrets -
Nothing a Borg empire couldnīt handle.
|
*Geek
mode*
You mean tens of thousands of turrets, right? And the super
cannon would nuke the borg shipd before they realized what hit them
*End Geek mode* |
Bah, how frequently can the
Deathstar fire its super uber cool cannon?
Besides, one Borg ship doesnīt
matter, nor ten.
Pfft, few cannons - nothing that Borg couldnīt handle. They
werenīt very effective when they were ordered to take Luke down.
Sledgstone - Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:40 pm
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once the cylons from battlestar galactica and borg merge into one super
computer/cyborg race nothing could stop them! except maybe Doctor Who...  *contemplates the endless mind games and battles that would ensue*
but what if the shapeshifting Dominion from Star Trek DS9 took on the
borg? i bet they couldn't be assimilated because their natural form is a liquid
organic state.. the armies the dominion had were vast as well... oh, and what if
the to'kra (sp?) from stargate joined forces with the klingons? damn.. there
would be no stopping that wave of troops.
and as for the deathstar, its
main cannon is for destroying planets! the borg cubes can be taken out with the
armada of star destroyers constantly escorting the deathstar. 
Grievous Seraph - Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:55 pm
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| Sledgstone wrote: |
| once the cylons from battlestar galactica and borg merge
into one super computer/cyborg race nothing could stop them! except maybe
Doctor Who... *contemplates the endless mind games and battles that would
ensue* |
*shudders* I have never really enjoyed Battlestar
Galactica so, I cannot tell.
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| but what if the shapeshifting Dominion from Star Trek DS9
took on the borg? i bet they couldn't be assimilated because their natural
form is a liquid organic state.. the armies the dominion had were vast as
well... oh, and what if the to'kra (sp?) from stargate joined forces with
the klingons? damn.. there would be no stopping that wave of troops.
|
Oh yeah, Dominion with the Shapeshifters would make a
great opponent, especially with their unknown technology.
As for the ToīKra
- Arenīt they just s small faction of rebels fighting against the bad Ghoaulds
(?)(such a stupid name)? There are far more superior races in the Stargate
universe, such as Asguards, the mechanical spiders that nearly infested Earth or
the other three (?) members of the big council
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| and as for the deathstar, its main cannon is for
destroying planets! the borg cubes can be taken out with the armada of
star destroyers constantly escorting the deathstar. |
Borgs would outnumber and outpower those pathetic waste
of proteins.
Crescent ZERO - Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:11 pm
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| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
| Crescent ZERO wrote: |
| Grievous Seraph
wrote: |
One small Borg
cubicle can make serious troubles to a big ship like
Enterprise with an ease. And not to mention, Enterprise has
got photon torpedos, high velocity projectiles and funky
lasers.
What armament does Deathstar have? One bigass ion
cannon and some pathetic turrets - Nothing a Borg empire
couldnīt handle.
|
*Geek mode*
You mean tens of
thousands of turrets, right? And the super cannon would nuke the
borg shipd before they realized what hit them
*End Geek
mode* |
Bah, how frequently can the Deathstar fire its
super uber cool cannon?
Besides, one Borg ship doesnīt matter, nor
ten.
Pfft, few cannons - nothing that Borg couldnīt handle. They
werenīt very effective when they were ordered to take Luke
down. |
How
often can it fire? Once a minute, as long as it's just space ships being
destroyed. The cannons are also meant for large vessels, not starfighters. I
just dug out my old guide to vehicles if you want me to go full blown uber-nerd on
this.
ShadowX - Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:27 pm
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| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
| Sledgstone wrote: |
| once the cylons from battlestar galactica and borg
merge into one super computer/cyborg race nothing could stop them!
except maybe Doctor Who... *contemplates the endless mind games and battles that
would ensue* |
*shudders* I have never really enjoyed Battlestar
Galactica so, I cannot tell.
| Quote: |
| but what if the shapeshifting Dominion from Star
Trek DS9 took on the borg? i bet they couldn't be assimilated
because their natural form is a liquid organic state.. the armies
the dominion had were vast as well... oh, and what if the to'kra
(sp?) from stargate joined forces with the klingons? damn.. there
would be no stopping that wave of troops. |
Oh yeah, Dominion with the
Shapeshifters would make a great opponent, especially with their unknown
technology.
As for the ToīKra - Arenīt they just s small faction of
rebels fighting against the bad Ghoaulds (?)(such a stupid name)? There
are far more superior races in the Stargate universe, such as Asguards,
the mechanical spiders that nearly infested Earth or the other three (?)
members of the big council
| Quote: |
| and as for the deathstar, its main cannon is for
destroying planets! the borg cubes can be taken out with the armada
of star destroyers constantly escorting the deathstar. |
Borgs would outnumber and outpower those pathetic
waste of proteins. |
It
doesn't matter look who's winning the poll
Sledgstone - Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:30 pm
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Species 8472 can take out the borg. and as for the To'Kra, they get by just fine
with their small numbers, just look at how many times SG1 has defeated entire
Ghoauld hierarchys all bythemselves..
and yeah, the Replicators would
take out even the borg if they came in contact with one another, seeing as how
the borg assimilate on a celullar level that takes a couple minutes and the
replicators simply deconstruct what they attach themselves to, improve
themselves based on the new technology and then replicate all in about a second
and a half.
the asguards are powerful, but they lack motivation.
and darthvader could put the force lockdown on the borg queen
and make her head explode.
Grievous Seraph - Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:23 am
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| shadowX wrote: |
| It doesn't matter look who's winning the poll |
Do you have anything relevant to say at all, shadow?
oO;
| Quote: |
| How often can it fire? Once a minute, as long as it's just
space ships being destroyed. The cannons are also meant for large vessels,
not starfighters. I just dug out my old guide to vehicles if you want me
to go full blown uber-nerd on this. |
Yes, please. This isnīt a
debate, but a discussion so, feel free to contribute with everything relevant to
this thread.
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| Species 8472 can take out the borg. and as for the To'Kra,
they get by just fine with their small numbers, just look at how many
times SG1 has defeated entire Ghoauld hierarchys all bythemselves..
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Then I suppose this leaves Species 8472 as the ultimate
superior race in the Star Trek universe ... or is anyone willing to contempolate
a fight between Dominion and Species 8472?
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| the asguards are powerful, but they lack
motivation. |
Puny little bastards, but the power they have is
unimaginable.
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| and darthvader could put the force lockdown on the borg
queen and make her head explode. |
I thought that 'The Force' in
such application works only on mentally weak and instable individuals, whereas
the Borg Queen doesnīt seem to have any of these requisite talents.
Khellendross - Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:43 am
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i reject my earlier statement, fuck all the other races... Star Trek has Q... Q
owns.... peroid... lol 
cfioncn - Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:11 am
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Starwars = force, lightsabers, (supernatural powers)
Star Trek = technology,
but comparable to star wars. (no supernatural powers)
Therefore,
Starwars has a pretty big advantage...esp since lightsabers can deflect
projectile fire (or at least energy based ones)....
However, star trek
has bigass armadas and might win by pure numbers.
ShadowX - Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:27 pm
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| cfioncn wrote: |
| However, star trek has bigass armadas and might win by
pure numbers. |
not really. If
you think about it star wars actualy out numbers startreck. with the clone army,
death star and the entire sith army.
Sledgstone - Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:39 pm
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| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
| Then I suppose this leaves
Species 8472 as the ultimate superior race in the Star Trek universe ...
or is anyone willing to contempolate a fight between Dominion and Species
8472? |
Species 8472
would win because every attack they do breaks down the cellular structure of
their enemies. and seeing as how the dominion's bodys are made of similar
cellular structures, they would be wipped out in a species wide plague.. unless
their bodys regect it, then it would be a toss up battle because both could
infiltrate each others forces, etc.
| Grievous Seraph wrote: |
| I thought that 'The Force' in
such application works only on mentally weak and instable individuals,
whereas the Borg Queen doesnīt seem to have any of these requisite
talents. |
ah, but
when siths and jedis battle one another they can use the force during their
fights for strategic advantages.. i also remembered seeing the sith lord do some
force action to luke back in the day.. blame george lucas for contradicting
himself often.
Mike 1508 - Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:10 pm
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Star Wars would dominate and the poll says it lol
Toy Machine - Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:59 pm
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Star Wars
Star Trek spends too much time debating what to do thus Star
Wars would blow or cut stuff up as usual.
Khellendross - Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:13 pm
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wait... noones entering Q into the equation? Q could snap his fingers and the
death star would disappear leaving everyone in it in space, armadas? nothing,
*snap* they somehow wind up in the middle of a sun... Q man.... obey the Q
Grievous Seraph - Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:29 am
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OK, new rule; Star Trek without Q.
Q is just
too strong, and would make this discussion banal if not utterly faint. This is
not what we want.
Josh - Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:12 pm
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well star trek needs Q. thats the whole point aint it? so Star trek would win.
Amadeus - Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:00 pm
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Star Wars would win. George Lucas could create a clone army of Jar Jar Binks!
Sledgstone - Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:12 am
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don't forget that star trek has teleporting technology.. they could board the
deathstar and take it out from the inside. 
| Amadeus wrote: |
| Star Wars would win. George Lucas could create a clone
army of Jar Jar Binks! |
nooooooooooo!!! 
Crescent ZERO - Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:26 pm
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| Sledgstone wrote: |
don't forget that star trek has teleporting technology..
they could board the deathstar and take it out from the inside.
|
Aren't
there limits on how many people can be sent and how far? Vader would just choke
em all as soon as they boarded.
DeathscytheX - Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:09 am
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'tell the muthafuckas bout the sheer darkside, pull up on ur planet deathstar
drive by'
The Darkside would own the borg, face it, the borge aint shit,
they wouldnt beable to adapt to the light saber. they would be killed.
Sledgstone - Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:21 am
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ah, wrong.. the borg would adapt the moment they got a single lightsaber... then
boom! all the borg drones are now equipped with lightsabers! and what if they
were to assimilate a jedi with enough 'mediclorions' -_- ? ahha! george lucas
gave the borg a loophole to have drones that can use the force! once the borg
assimilate the mediclorions, then all will be lost for the universe.
End of Topic.
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