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Written by Clowtrigger   
Monday, 24 July 2006
Clowtrigger
July 18th, 2005, 09:53 AM
You can talk about Gundam in General here.
Rules:
1. Do not bash any Character from any series
2. MS vs MS is allowed but please state facts.
3. No Flaming
4. Do not bash any series.

Kuwabara
July 18th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Okay here is my first post. Altron Gundam VS Dragon Gundam which would win?

Clowtrigger
July 18th, 2005, 10:13 AM
I say Dragon Gundam, because not even Kira,Heero and Amuro can touch a Mobile Fighter because basically. G Gundam=DBZ+Gundam.

Kuwabara
July 18th, 2005, 10:18 AM
I go with Altron Cause the Mobile Armors are weak. The cant take a real Gundams power.

Sabe
July 18th, 2005, 05:24 PM
Agreed. When it comes to abilities, a MA overshadows a "Gundam" rather spectacularly. However, when it comes to durability, strength, and weaponry, a "Gundam" would pwn. Having said that, I'd go with Altron.

If you were to put Duo and Heero in a battle against eachother using only Zaku's, who would win?

Clowtrigger
July 18th, 2005, 05:30 PM
Which kind of Zaku? CE or UC.

Sabe
July 18th, 2005, 05:32 PM
My bad...^_^; Shoulda said that huh? *looks for photo to be sure it's the right one* UC.

Clowtrigger
July 18th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Hmm. Heero is the more efficient of the two (but Kira and Amuro would disect him)

Strider Hiryu
July 18th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I'll personally say Duo. Though he's highly quirky and whatnot he does have the skills to hold his own in battle against Heero. If it came down to a match with melee weapons (Heat Hawks) Duo would certainly win, his expertise do fall in melee combat. Heero might take him in ranged.

As for the two suits Altron is the better of the two. Though FC suits are highly powerful in the aspect of attacks they have no ranged attacks and for that matter a lack of defense. Given that both pilots are warriors (more or less) it comes down to a matter of pilot skill. The Dragon Gundam will be faster in the reflex dept due to the control aspect of the suit but Wufei is personally gonna whoop some ass with the Altron. Though his reflexes will be a tad bit slower an AC Gundam can take a beating and with the skills Wufei has the Dragon Gundam does not stand a chance.

Kuwabara
July 18th, 2005, 11:14 PM
Okay with that Said. I have to say the Best Wing Pilot is Wufei. For some reason he strikes me to be the best of them all. Am I wrong or what?

ZGMF X23S SAVIOR
July 19th, 2005, 07:11 AM
^^AND he owned 2 main characters:
1. Treize (not that sure though, was it suicide?)
2. Heero (Got clawed at the chest area...)

He also has the gundam w/ an all-around aptitude... (Heavyarms: no bullets=done for... Deathschyte-H: All Melee, 1 projectile... Sandrock: 2 schytes, oh yeah...
WZ: neat, but not exactly user-friendly[user will go nuts if user is grunty...]...)

Dont get me wrong, I dislike Wu-fei; his personality, that is... in GW pilots, it has to be Duo Maxwell... That guy's neat: he's the reason why I watched GW...

EVA-01
July 19th, 2005, 02:29 PM
Okay with that Said. I have to say the Best Wing Pilot is Wufei. For some reason he strikes me to be the best of them all. Am I wrong or what?

He's my favorite out of all the Wing pilots. ^_^ He pwne d Heero. pwned...and he's got the NATAKU Gundam! Duo's probably my second favorite out of Wing pilots

Clowtrigger
July 25th, 2005, 04:56 AM
Nataku was actually the name of his wife...

EVA-01
July 25th, 2005, 01:39 PM
But he did name it after her right?

ZGMF X23S SAVIOR
July 30th, 2005, 11:26 PM
UC vs. all AU? who would win if they went to war?

Strider Hiryu
July 30th, 2005, 11:45 PM
That question is asking for trouble ZGMF. It has the makings of starting a flame, no matter how respective we are of trying not too.

Why do I say this? Our opinions will lead us into a fight that we should not get into (believe me I know).

Though in my opinion UC would own AU like no tomorrow. As I said my opinion and I'm not gonna elaborate since it will lead into a fight between me and half of you guys.

ZGMF X23S SAVIOR
July 30th, 2005, 11:45 PM
sory...

Strider Hiryu
July 30th, 2005, 11:46 PM
No need to apologize, if we can keep our ego's under control it might lead into some interesting conversation pieces. Just need to keep our ego's under control.

ZGMF X23S SAVIOR
July 30th, 2005, 11:52 PM
ok...

what if kira died before gsd???

Kuwabara
July 31st, 2005, 12:10 AM
If Kira died it wasnt gonna change Much. Strider i wont comment on that UC thing.

Strider Hiryu
July 31st, 2005, 04:52 PM
Bah, you're a spoil sport Kuwa (j/k).

Clowtrigger
August 1st, 2005, 08:07 AM
nope, alot will change...
Shinn would be dead because Raww would've succeeded.
Athrun would also be dead because Cagalli would also die

Kuwabara
August 3rd, 2005, 12:06 PM
Well Strider if we can keep our ego's under control I say AU cant Win. UC has the better balance of suits but The AU i am talking about we have Gundam X and The Moonlight butter fly.

I wont count G Gundam in it cause they have Week Armor.

Clowtrigger
August 3rd, 2005, 12:30 PM
AU's have Uber Gundam's Like Wing Zero TurnA and Strike Freedom...While UC has Double Zeta , V Gundam and Hi-Nu

Kuwabara
August 3rd, 2005, 12:56 PM
Wing Zero isnt that Uber all it has is Armor. I feel sad to say that Wing Zero is Over rated....

Clowtrigger
August 3rd, 2005, 01:04 PM
But it's faster than Dual X.

Kuwabara
August 3rd, 2005, 01:11 PM
Yeah it is not to Mention the Double Buster Packs a whallop. Double X is AU w00t. Not to mention the artilery we can pack in certain suits Like Leapord and Heavy arms.

Strider Hiryu
August 3rd, 2005, 01:12 PM
Hi-Nu is not an actual used Gundam Clow. It's a concept that never appears (actually I think it's in one of the manga's but we're basing this solely on show).

Double Zeta is not that great of a suit. Though I've never seen ZZ I've done tech research and the Zeta is far better then the Double Zeta (that is my opinion).

Can't say much on the V Gundam but by what I've read its a very versatile suit.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Moonlight Butterfly is not the end all attack people think it is and neither is the Twin Satelite Cannon of the Double X. These two things alone will not turn the tide between an all out fight pitting AU vs. UC.

UC will win solely on it's assortment of mechs, tech, and the experience of their pilots. Do note that UC has a major majority of pilots that have combat experience whereas AU pilots are usually teens thrown into a conflict with little to no experience in combat situations.

Clowtrigger
August 3rd, 2005, 01:20 PM
CE also has a very wide variety of MS and MA. Also Beam Shield technology is present in CE. The thing UC has over AU Pilots is that they are more experienced pilots

Kuwabara
August 3rd, 2005, 01:32 PM
Strider has a Point with the Pilots except for Gundam Wing were they were trained and had a few veteran pilots. One thing about CE is the Armor is weak i mean they use titanium and then cover it with Phase shift they are pretty much G-Gundam Armor with a few tweaks. But they have the weapons to back up the lack of Armor.

UC have the Newtype Factor and not to mention they have great cockpit systems like the Bio-computer. VSBR's and Also I-Field Barriers are a Plus. But then the CE Mirage Calloids and then the Deathscythes cloaking device. The UC has the Battle Fortresses. Like in V gundam they got that Angel Halo to babyfy the mind but then Seed has GENESIS.

When it come down to ti UC has the goodies of the Pilots. But AU pilots have the desire i mean they will give the Ultimate Sacrifice noticable in Gundam Wing and CE. Like When in Wing they do not hesistate to Take ther opponents to hell with them like Duo tried to do when he was caught X'D. Ooh and then the endurance of the Wing Pilots Like Heero and Zechs.

Clowtrigger
August 3rd, 2005, 01:40 PM
You forgot about mr. self destruct #2m, Athrun Zala. AU also has Newtypes, X has them. But I also believe UC would win, but CE, AC, and AW would prove a Hard Challenge especially when you have Kira being a Coordinator w/ SEED, Heero's Suicidal Tactics, and Garrod's Uber Cannon™

Kuwabara
August 3rd, 2005, 01:50 PM
Not Only Heero's suicidal Tactics....... He's got more skill then mostly all the other AU characters him and Zechs are like Gods they can Trash a Gundam in Leo's which pwns. I wonder Can Kira beat shinn and Impulse using a Dagger? But Zechs Beat Wing using a Leo Heero almost beat Altron using a Leo....

Clowtrigger
August 3rd, 2005, 01:54 PM
Kira could very much own in a MP suit, since it's officially said that Kira>>>Shinn>>>Athrun skill-wise, actually Shinn is a trained soldier as well as Athrun (Athrun's...well a little confused by ep 23), If you want a quick summary of GSD, DL ep 41...

I may have forgotten that Amuro's Suicidal Tactics>>>>>Heero's Suicidal Tactics