If I need to start watching Gundam in the proper order of the anime series or in proper order of their release dates, then does MSG fair as the oldest and a right base for some of the Gundams ?
Any recommendations on how I should go about watching this mammoth anime ... afterall, reading about the diverse and humongous knowledge you guys've displayed on here, kinda motivates me to follow the series and the good part's that I've loved what I've seen so far. I dunno if you guys're getting what I'm trying to say :p ... sorry heh

MSG is the first Gundam series created and it is the start of the UC timeline. I suggest starting off with it first (if you haven't already seen it) and then move your way thru the series in this order:

Mobile Suit Gundam: The 8th MS Team
Gundam 0080
Gundam 0083
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ (not released yet outside of Japan, can only be gotten thru fansub groups)
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack
Mobile Suit Gundam F91
Mobile Suit V Gundam (again not released out of Japan, can only be gotten thru fansub groups).

This way you cover the UC timeline in order of events and don't miss out on anything. This will also help you understand some of the references brought up throughout the various series (like the references to MSG and Zeta Gundam in Char's Counterattack). It also helps you understand the various technical enhancements as well as suit mechanics (if you're interested in the suit specifics like I am).

I think that should give you a basic outline on how the UC timeline plays out. As I mentioned in the Gundam Poll the AU (alternate universe) Gundam series don't go in any order and have nothing to do with each other so they can be watched however you wish to view them (though watching MSG will help you understand what the term "newtype" means in Gundam X, if you wish to view it).

You'll like Gundam X a lot more if you watch it after MGS and Zeta

That's exactly the kind of information I was hoping to find out about. Currently I've been watching MSG on television and have 6 episodes of Gundam Seed.
I was totally blown (didn't understand a thing), regarding your posts, Kuwa and yours, in the Poll thread regarding the UC and the AC. What it meant and in what context, that is ^_^.

Strider, is what you listed, ONLY a part of the UC timeline sub-series ? I didn't see a Gundam Seed listed. I know you're not too fond of it, but I also gather it's part of the AC timeline, righto ?

What I listed was UC timeline only. SEED, SEED-Destiny, and SEED Astray are all Alternate Universe Gundam Series and have nothing to do with the original gundam (and in my opinion are not worth watching). SEED started out with a good idea but it went to crap after the first few eps.

AU series include (I'm sure you know but this is just for listing purposes if anyone comes in and doesn't know):

Gundam Wing (EW included)
G Gundam
Gundam X (very good show)
Turn-A Gundam
SEED
SEED-Destiny
SEED Astray

Is it me or do I sound like a Gundam Otaku? (not that its a bad thing but jeez I know to much)

Oh yeah, only watch Turn-A after watching at least 2 AU gundam series and most of the UC timeline series

I will vouch with him on that. I just started dling and watching Turn-A and its good to have the knowledge of previous series behind you.

Watch 08th MS team! I loved it SOOOO much! Oh my goodness, it's like a beautiful Gundam-Romeo and Juliet amalgam... oooooooooooooooooohhh my heck... I'm dying just thinking about it...

Wow, pretty cool ^_^. If Seed isn't worth watching although, I'm thinking of concentrating on the MSG series [on air] and try and look for the Gundam 0080 series. That way, I'd have a good Gundam base, which I terrible want for sure and I'd follow up to the anime in the rigt way.

You guys approve ^_^ ?

Before you Forget Watch Gundam Wing. I guarenty you'll love it! Everybody loves it. Even my good pal strider who had that flame with me loved the series even though he was trying to show me the other series( which i thank him) Most of the UC shows rock. The sorriest ones were Seed and G but you'll love G it doesn't really suck it jsut strays from the Piloting mode and story sucks. Turn A is set in our timeline and i'm going to check it out once i'm done with V which rules.

I don't love it. I think its okay, its nothing compared to the UC timeline series (more or less since Tomino-sama created them). I think GW could have been done a little better since it didn't properly portray the Gundam series as a whole (I mean its nothing compared to the original Mobile Suit Gundam).

Anyways sounds like a good idea to do Godgrave. I will tell you this, 0080 is 6 eps and its alright since it shows the Kampfer, one of the best Zeon suits from the One Year war (besides the Zaku I that is). I'm sure the series would of did fine without it since it doesn't throw out alot of plot detail and is basically about a little kid (also takes place at the end of the One Year war).
(http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/0080/ms-18e.htm)

Thanks for giving me some direction ^_^. And seeing the Kampfer really interests me, especially since you described in that way !see

In yesterday's episode of MSG, there was this blonde girl who kinda fell from her Green ship and died, this got the main lead very scared. And then, there was this new Blue suit which made it's introduction [had a Heat/Electric Whip on it]. Next episode the main guy's gonna meet his mother. My question to you guys is, how much of this series have I missed out already *fears probably a 100 or so* ....

Lets see your at Ramba Ral right now since you said the Gouf has made its appearance. If I remember right you missed out on a few eps (not too many but you missed out on some good stuff). I'm not 100% sure though since its been a long while since I last saw MSG so the ep number escapes me at the moment. aqu could probably give you a better estimate on the number of eps missed.

Also try to to double post. Edit previous posts so as not to do so.

You're best best is to skip the series for now and watch the 3 movie compilations, availible on VHS and DVD

I'll bet your local best buy has 'em in stock

I don't have a Best Buy store over here ^_^ ... I'll probably have to order it online then.
I apologise for the double post, it's just that the post prior to my last post was hit a day before, and this one was rather fresh, so I thought you guys'd think you'd already read it or something ... won't do it again though.

0080 and 0083 are not real Fun to watch because they finsih to early and 0083 left me in suspense.

they were preaty short, but they were still preaty good

They were good.

i second that 08th MS team is a must see, its more realistic in my opinion, rather than having these super charged pimp master pilots in quadrillian $ machinery that is always instantly fixed after every battle without any sence of money loss

Are you reffering to Wing?http://forums.ancientclan.com/images/icons/acelite/nonono2.gif

Yes by golly I think he is. Way to go outlaw.

i second that 08th MS team is a must see, its more realistic in my opinion, rather than having these super charged pimp master pilots in quadrillian $ machinery that is always instantly fixed after every battle without any sence of money loss
Amen to that. I love the UC timeline but havent seen any gundam in the last year or so (except re watching my old Gw Boxset that is the only anime I currently own) so I really need to re watch some Gundam series to get back into it.

lol yes wing is a major contender in that catogory, also SEED and G-Gundam and ZETA and ZZ all have these super pimp master pilots with completely unrealistic designs....ESPECIALY, SEED Gundam, yah moving armor plates? how about i move one of those plates up yer ass there bud :p(not directed to anyone in particular btw)

but 08th should have not tried for an actualy storyline outside of the war...some wierd love thing was going on, that i tended to just fastforward through lol

for once please for once can they make a gundam with continous battles? none of the love crap....(no offense to u guys that like that

He was talking about Zeta too so ha ha Strider.

Sadly those who consider Zeta to be an indestructible suit are idiots and its starting to show in this topic. Same goes with any of the suits in Zeta. All those were actually quite realistic designs and all were quite capable of being destroyed (as can be seen in the end of the Zeta series, which some of you seem to be overlooking). Some of you are just starting to throw out insults to make people mad (I advise against it).

GW, SEED, and G-Gundam are the only three series that I've seen suits so unrealisticly powerful that its not even funny and frankly it makes me sick. GW was only made to appease those fans who love overpowered suits and pretty boy pilots. SEED is basically a remake of the first Gundam series with new ideas and characters substituted in. G-Gundam is basically a DBZ form of Gundam, senseless fighting to appease those who have no taste in refined combat. All three series were just made to appease those who complained that the UC series had nothing of interest in, fanboys with no previous mecha knowledge if you ask me.

Also Mimiru most of the Zeta Gundam series is battles. Theres very few eps where a battle doesn't take place. Its also a mainstay of the Gundam series to work in some sort of love story, I've seen it in every Gundam I've seen and I'm sure we'll continually see it when new ones are created.

That's exactly what I noticed when I watched a few episodes of Seed Destiny, Strider. Maybe, only a Gundam could eliminate another, unless attacked by the Tanhausser or that Deflector Weapon PLANT used in space. I guess (not too sure since I've seen just a bit). In contrast to this, I love MSG for it's realism, where you've got Ramba Rul's Gouff and prototypes breaking Gundam's armour plate AND his hand right ? MSG's beginning to grow on me with the further it gets in it's series. I just wish they'd air it on all weekdays, instead of just on Friday ^_^

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/rx-178-fxa-05d.htm
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/msk-008.htm
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/msa-005.htm - magicaly transforms into an airship...
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/rms-099.htm

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/mrx-009.htm
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/mrx-010.htm
note the last 2s' fortress mode...yes very realistic...(0_o)

and also to learn alot about the "theory behind the gundam" i advise you to go to www.mahq.net and look at some stuff and read the articles to understand the mechanics behind some of the stuff

You're talking about the damn Psycho Gundam, that thing was the only overpowered suit in all of Zeta. My god outlaw come on who do you think you're talking too. For god sakes you were part of two of my RPGs in the past so you know my knowledge is ruled in fact (and I treat MAHQ like the the Mecha Bible) (also that is if you remember being apart of them).

The Mark II is by far only a step up from the RX-78-2, the thing is not that powerful. In fact if I wanted to say so its just the RX-78-2 reincarnated. The Super Gundam would be the equivalent of the original Gundam docking with the G-Fighter. Its nothing more then additional weapons to help the suit keep up with the newly designed MS's being thrown into combat.

The Dijeh is nothing but an upgraded Gelgoog made for Amuro. Sure the suit is good and come on a Newtype pilots it, hence why the suit is by far one of the best to come from Zeta. However it is not a "pimp ass" suit as you would say. It just shows how a suit with a good pilot can stand up to the masses in battle.

You're seriously considering the Methuss to be an overpowered suit? That suit is a joke. For god sakes the thing can barely do anything in combat unless its piloted by a noteworthy pilot (which sadly it isn't). Plus the Methuss is considered to be a Mobile Armor which if you've ever paid attention during past UC series MA's were quite notorious for being able to transform.

My god why is the Rick Dias in there. Are you telling me you consider this thing overpowered? If you are you are an idiot. The suit is no better then a Jegan. The only thing it had going for it was the fact that three of Zeons top pilots piloted them in the Grypp's Conflict, Char being one of them.

Sadly you're doing nothing to prove these suits are overpowered. For one Zeta is a good example of what a good, highly skilled pilot can do in combat with the right equipment. Two, the Psycho Gundam is built for a Newtype hence why it was heavily overpowered (if you've noticed in the UC timeline all Newtype suits are more powerful then they should be with the exception of the Alex). Sadly I think you need to watch Zeta (or watch it again) and pay close attention to it. You'll notice these suits are not that powerful (with the exception of the Psycho Gundam). Sadly to say I've seen worse come for GW then I have from any UC timeline series.

Strider, I understand being adamant about a subject, but this is a blatent attack. You have been here long enough to no better than this, so this really suprises me. You may have a lot more "tenure" here than I do, but a member is a member; you have the same rules to follow as anyone else.
Try to keep your comments under restraint, and don't openly insult someone please.

Thats they way he is. You dont go with his opinion and he slams you. "UC" is supposed to be the greatest thing gundam and don't compare it to "AU" Gundam series. Man he needs a serious intervention with his supremacy problems.

back on topic Gundam wing is also a great Gundam series to start watching if your a starter.

Ok thats it. I don't care if your a mod or not Sabe but do not freaking single this on me thats to f***ing pigheaded of you to do. If I'm banned for this then good cause I'm sick of everything being placed on me. Kuwabara get over yourself. I don't insult people cause thats the way I am. You guys are to freaking hard headed to see someone elses points and I have to resort to insults to get you to listen. I'm actually a very kind person and never insult people in everyday life (if I do its out of fun) but you guys actually deserve every god damn thing I say as an insult.

I have no supremecy problems and what Kuwabara just said was a damn insult. I'm just trying to make you guys see the other side of the damn coin but who cares cause you certainly don't. I've been here four and a half years, I know the rules inside and out, never broken them yet you say I'm doing it. Oh for god sakes I'm done with the Gundam area of this forum. If all thats gonna happen is me getting blamed for starting things, insulting people, and having a so called supremecy problem then I don't need it. Good riddance.

Strider: I understand that outlaw was baiting you. It's just the fact that you get a bit overzelous in you comments. I'm just asking you to tone it down a bit, since you ARE the resident Gundam expert(according to several sources). That's all I'm asking. You will also see that I didn't single out the event at all, just the comments you made. I was nice about asking you to relax; I expect the same in return.
Kuwabara: Strider is right. You've been asked before not to stard crap with Strider. ESPECIALLY when it comes to Gundam. So please, leave it alone.

Sorry but its just so damn fun:D. All i have to do is purposely say something bad about the "UC" timeline of gundam or say "AU" is better and he goes into overdrive:ego:. Well now i'll try to stop purposely pissing You off Strider. just don't abandon the gundam forum cause one day i'll need your help. cause some bastard is soon to come with stupid alligations thata contradict all things Gundam and i'll need your help to set;em str8.

So truce :highfive: :clap: :banana: Alright strider.

holy crap i like gundam but this is insane hardcore fans i see

yah shouldnt it be my place to say what is and what isnt insulting to me? you have no right to make insinuations about conflict between me and him, all was fine and it was a completely legit debate with proper sides being expressed correctly, so until someone complains, personaly i think you should stick to yourself

This whole topic has turned into a flame war unfortunitly. Although I still stand with Striders order of which to watch if you want to get into the Gundam series, I will also say that AU is a nice break from all the UC Gundam Series.

My 2 Cents.

Yeah, I'm trying hard to go in that order. For now, for some constraints un-avoided by me and with what's at hand, I'm gonna continue watching Mobile Suit Gundam and then venture into the other Gundams in the correct order.

Outlaw Sabe has the right to say if its becoming a flame. He is a moderator even if it doesn offend you they were insulting and if your not insulted your shameless. Now get off his back he's just doing what he's been assigned to do. SO please stop bashing him and don't start on me.

Strider, you know your gundam and you know the rules. i told sabe to re-open this topic because you had some good info in it. unfortunately, this topic has gone another path.

if any idiot (see below quote) irritates you in the gundam forum again, let me know and i'll either ban them from the gundam forum, or all together.

Sorry but its just so damn fun:D. All i have to do is purposely say something bad about the "UC" timeline of gundam or say "AU" is better and he goes into overdrive:ego:. Well now i'll try to stop purposely pissing You off Strider.

the ban button is right around the corner.